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Post by Elk on Jun 21, 2015 14:35:12 GMT -6
Post here your ideas for what each species of avian (from the Master List) should eat. These ideas may become items that will be found in explore and/or hunting.
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Post by Thor on Jun 25, 2015 7:39:59 GMT -6
Personally, I think that they should eat different things. Some eat meat/fish/insects, while others eat fruits and nuts, but that's just me. That being said...
Phoenixes should be able to eat anything, insects, meat, or fruit/nuts.
Rocs should stick to meats and fish
Pamolas should also stick to meats and fish
Diniao should also stick to meats and fish
Orits should eat insects such as termites
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Post by Elk on Jun 25, 2015 14:22:57 GMT -6
Though the way you assigned food does seem intuitive, it seems a little unbalanced. Meats and fish are what four out of five species will eat, and only one eats fruits and nuts.
Perhaps Pamolas could also eat fruits/nuts? And Diniao could also eat insects? The Roc and Orit diets seem good considering the types of birds they're based on.
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Post by Thor on Jun 25, 2015 15:01:20 GMT -6
I was really just going off of what the birds they're based off of eat. Of course, these are mythical beings, so their diets could be altered to make it a bit more balanced as we see fit. c:
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Post by Elk on Jun 25, 2015 15:23:56 GMT -6
Yep! That's why I said it seems intuitive. The suggestions I made were trying to keep the "equivalent" birds' diets in mind.
What do you think of them though? Do you think those would balance it out enough?
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Post by Thor on Jun 25, 2015 18:57:53 GMT -6
Yeah, I definitely think that would balance it out some, but keep in mind, there apre probably going to be other species, than just those five, right? So there will be more avians with varied diets to come.
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Post by Elk on Jun 25, 2015 19:03:09 GMT -6
Eventually yeah. Maybe at the one-year mark there will be another avian species released. Depends on how things go.
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Post by Thor on Jun 25, 2015 19:06:20 GMT -6
I'm already excited for the release of new avians, wondering what kinds will be next, etcetera. So much to look forward to!
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Post by Elk on Jun 25, 2015 19:30:02 GMT -6
I'm glad you're excited! I'm pretty excited too. ^_^
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Post by Elk on Jul 18, 2015 13:45:36 GMT -6
So I did a little more research and birds of prey don't eat fruits/nuts or insects really. Maybe this is just me (tell me what you guys think) but I was imagining all the mythical birds to be larger and magnificent like birds of prey, so the fruit/insects thing wouldn't work out.
How should we do this then? Meat, fish... Would it be bad if they all ate the same thing? Meat and fish? I can't come up with any new ideas on my own. Unless we break meat into large animals and small animals... We could have a list that says which food items are in each category?
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Post by armadillosushi on Jul 19, 2015 1:21:28 GMT -6
It wouldn't be a bad thing if they all ate the same food. There could be some items that only certain species could eat, or have the three more common species eat small meat and fish while the Diniao and Phoenix only eat large game. Either way a list would probably be useful (and an item database would have the information anyway).
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Post by lightconcorde on Jul 20, 2015 9:21:00 GMT -6
On FlightRising different dragon breeds eat different types of food out of 4 categories (meat, seafood, insects, plants). Some breeds eat all food types, some other only 1 or 2 types. Can't we follow a similar way? Except perhaps with more and -correctly- named types of food d: (because on FR mushrooms are classified as plants and spiders as insects, and it slightly annoys me! xD)
Perhaps we could just split each of the "basic" categories into subcategories basing on size? Let's say, meat:
(no star) - carrion of any size
* - small creatures like squirrels, snakes, mice and so on
** - larger prey, like typical canine-sized?
*** - equines, cervines, heavy bovines etc
**** - elephants, whales, all other things super huge (no idea what bird would even hunt whales... sure it must be enormous lol)
Other categories would be divided in a similar way, maybe? No idea how difficult it would be to code or even memorize xD
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Post by Elk on Jul 20, 2015 17:12:32 GMT -6
@ Sooshi
That's an interesting idea. Something like that might work.
@ Light
That might work if we could use all four categories. The discussion above is that these birds don't eat insects or fruits/nuts or the sort. It doesn't sound like it'd be too difficult if we had an excessive amount of food items like Flight Rising does though. I imagine it'd be a similar system, except instead of dictating rarity or whatever it is, it would dictate size. I'm not sure what it'd add however since I would think most people would know the difference in size between one animal and the next so long as we aren't using obscure, closely-related species of the same animal kind of deal. Maybe just another detail to kind of "educate" the players? I'm not sure.
@ All
The way Gryffs is set up (and I don't want to do it exactly like this) is that each species has two food items it eats: one smaller food and one larger food. The difference between the two foods is the amount of points it gives towards the hunger stat. But they don't overlap at all except for the universal foods (apples and pears).
What if we had several animals for each category (small meat, large meat, small fish, large fish) to add variety to things? Not sure how many, but maybe five? We can talk about the number if you guys want to go with this. Maybe if we could figure out a universal food or two we could do that too. I'm not sure what it could be though.
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Post by lightconcorde on Jul 21, 2015 2:24:08 GMT -6
Yeah, we could mix these two systems and bring more logic to it. It would definitely make more sense than on FR: each dragon, small or big, absorbs always the same amount of food. It gets really weird when a common housefly has more food points than an octopus, while both creatures end in an elephant-sized dragon's stomach... Perhaps the FR food points mean nutrition values or something, I guess we'll never figure it out for sure xD
Five food sources in each category is a good number to start with, I think c:
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Post by Elk on Aug 15, 2015 21:03:24 GMT -6
So I'm looking through my game notes from the very beginning and I realized something! We can have three categories of meat!
- Birds
- Fish
- Rodents
That covers most of the types of meat. It leaves out rabbits and hares, but we could make that a fourth category if people really want to. I really don't think our birds would eat many insects considering how big they are, and since they're supposed to be related (in whatever extent of that word you wish) to birds of prey I don't think they'd do well with plants either.
So we could just have an item for each category that has a few of that type in the icon (e.g. Bird Meat could have a songbird, waterfowl, and shorebird in its icon). Or we can divvy up each category to have two subcategories: larger and smaller. And then the icon could be the same as above, but with more specific examples.
What does everyone think?
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